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New Dragon 32 Owner

Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 9:00 am
by Boylinux
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Dragon 32 - SN: 075682 :D

No Tape Deck or PSU :roll:

Re: New Dragon 32 Owner

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:33 pm
by tormod
Hi Boylinux,

Welcome to the forum.
No Tape Deck or PSU :roll:
I guess you already know how to play tape files through a computer soundcard into your Dragon?

For the missing PSU you can probably use a standard PC power supply, since it more or less delivers the voltages that the Dragon uses. I haven't tried this myself but I think other people on the forum have been doing this (Rolf?). Note that the Dragon 32 needs a -5V while the Dragon 64 needs a -12V. Old ATX supplies even had -5V but newer ones only have -12. It should be fairly simple to convert the -12 into -5 for the Dragon 32. Or inject the -12 into the Dragon internal PSU board, since it does conversion from ca -18V to -5 already.

Tormod

Re: New Dragon 32 Owner

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:02 pm
by rolfmichelsen
Yep, I had to "improvise" a power supply a while back when my real PSU was lost (now recovered!). I ended up building a PSU from scratch rather than using a standard PC PSU. I can dig up the part list and create some schematics if there is an interest. The Dragon PSU is quite simple.

-- Rolf

Re: New Dragon 32 Owner

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:07 pm
by robcfg
Rolf,

Please upload those schematics! I have a friend with a Dragon 64 and no PSU and that will help for sure.

Re: New Dragon 32 Owner

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:28 pm
by Alastair
tormod wrote:Note that the Dragon 32 needs a -5V while the Dragon 64 needs a -12V.
I always thought that Dragon 32 and 64 PSUs were identical in their output, am I wrong in this assumption?

Re: New Dragon 32 Owner

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 9:58 am
by tormod
Yes, I think the (external) PSU is the same: It delivers AC 8.5V and AC 28V (with center tap). So if you find a one-to-one replacement for it there shouldn't be any issues. However, when connecting an alternative DC supply such as a PC ATX supply you will need to bypass the internal PSU (rectifier and regulator), which converts the AC 28V into +12V 0V -5V (Dragon 32) or into +12V 0V -12V (Dragon 64).

Graham E. Kinns' page is an excellent reference: http://dragon32.info/info/psu.html

BTW, my own PSU (UK model, square base) is labelled "Dragon 32K" but it might be from before the 64 was conceived anyway.

Re: New Dragon 32 Owner

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:45 pm
by rolfmichelsen
The Dragon PSU is basically a transformer providing 1 x 8,5 VAC and 2 x 14 VAC output. This is a fairly common transformer and easy to come by.

I buy my parts from ELFA. The parts from the ELFA catalogue are:
  • Toroid transformer 55 VA, 8,5 VAC + 2 x 14,4 VAC (part no 56-109-10)
  • 9 way female D-Sub connector (part no 44-160-54)
  • 9 way D-Sub plastic hood (part no 44-085-06)
The attached diagram shows the wiring from the transformer to the D-Sub. The transformer colour coding can be different for different transformers. D-Sub connectors always have tiny numbers next to the pins so there is little change of getting that part wrong.

-- Rolf